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Poster: dark.starz Date: Jun 8, 2011 6:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: The Apple Spaceship!

Well, if Weir can drop $$ south of three million on his spaceship, leave it up to Steve Jobs to propose investing three billion on his new spaceship.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-08/steve-jobs-shows-off-spaceship-design-for-new-apple-campus.html

This radical design would house 12,000 employees on 3 million square feet of land that Apple already owns. Jobs proposed this to the Cupertino City Council last evening and in typical Jobs style; "We're the largest taxpayer in Cupertino, so we'd like to continue to stay here and pay taxes," Jobs said. Without a new campus, Apple may have to move to another city, such as Mountain View, where Google is based.

I mean you have to give this visionary credit, he looked at Sony's business model of manufacturing and distributing hardware (a/v & pc) and the further investments of Sony Music & Film (software) and kicked it up a few dozen notches with the introduction of i-pod, i-pad, i-phone on the hardware side and i-tunes, i-books, i-cloud on the software side. No wonder why Apple is sitting on $60 Billion in cash.

I'd be curious to know what percentage of folks here use PC's vs Apple products. The decline in PC sales is definitely an indicator of future trends.

Hopefully for Steve he will appoint a extremely capable project manager for this building and his personal health will allow him to see this through to fruition in 2015.







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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jun 8, 2011 8:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

Mac Tower - got sick of viruses and bullshit maintenance on Windows. Never going back.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 9, 2011 7:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

I love the mac stuff, but the price tag is prohibitive. If they are able to bring cost down a bit, PC's will be in serious trouble.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 9, 2011 7:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

Make that a double.

When I bought my kids their own laptops six months ago, I really wanted to get them started on Macs. But 3 kids and a huge difference in price equals no can do with the Macs. If they lowered their prices, SDH is right on.

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Poster: buscameby Date: Jun 9, 2011 7:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

iMAc @ home PC Windows 7 @ office.

I work for a IT service provider, both have their advantages.

For me, I love the MAC since I'm a sales guy not a geek and its rock solid, the sw for a PC is better for business apps and Windows 7 seems so much more stable than previous OS for MS.

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Poster: BornEasement Date: Jun 9, 2011 7:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

Ahem. You implying that I'm a nerd sir?

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Poster: buscameby Date: Jun 9, 2011 7:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

Never-lol the guys I work with,, but if the shoe fits rfl

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Poster: BornEasement Date: Jun 9, 2011 7:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

i guess its... Apples and oranges!(nyuck nyuck)

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Poster: BornEasement Date: Jun 9, 2011 6:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

Apple is evil as far as i'm concerned. MACs seem to tell me what i want, while Windows is far more open to modification and customization. The sheer volume of programs and hardware available to PC users speaks for itself. By comparison Apple just seems like corporate fascism.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jun 9, 2011 9:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

I've run both platforms for close to 20 years... that may or may not qualify me in your eyes, but I fail to understand several of your comments.

"MACs seem to tell me what i want," - they make reasonable suggestions based on your patterns of use, and the user community at large. You can turn these features off.

"Windows is far more open to modification and customization" Sorry, much easier to modify a Mac... and if you know some Linux, (I don't) you probably can tackle the kernel much easier than tackling Windows code.

"The sheer volume of programs and hardware available to PC users speaks for itself." Programs - if you mean freeware and shareware, sure... if you mean viruses, trojans and nasty malware, you're right. When I need to run Windows software, I load Parallels and run it on my Mac. Graphics editing? The entire Adobe product line runs the same on both platforms, but video is MUCH smoother from the Mac. Hardware? I can't think of anything more I could want - hard drives, monitors, peripherals, printers are all the same, and mostly interchangeable.

The only knock on Apple products is cost... for me, time is money, and I've saved more than the cost with less down time for laborious Windows chores, scanning for viruses, vigilant housecleaning, etc.

Like you say, apples and oranges... but I'd say apples and grapefruits.

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Poster: BornEasement Date: Jun 9, 2011 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

I know what you're saying with regards to "telling you what you want" but I meant that simply in observing the way products are distributed. And percieved. I simply wont ever like the idea that innovation is handed down to us from one source, rather than developed in and out of competition between a variety of programmers and designers. For hardware I meant soundcards, etc. Those things aren't easy to upgrade on a mac, and you can buy or build a cheap PC and customize the hardware to your liking for considerably less money than it would take to buy a high end mac, which would most likely have you pay for power in places you don't need it.

And don't undersell freeware. Foobar is simply better music management software for an audiophile than Itunes, and always will be.

The thing is, i'm not speaking to the "majority interests" of the computer clientele. Itunes and apples and ipods work great for those people. But for people like me, who need know exactly how and why my music is playing, windows is simply easier to use. And that's my point. The differences between macs and pc's aren't really dramatic enough to hugely impact most people, I think. My mom can use both. But Apple tends to leave the special interests of nerds in the dust in order to make money. Note that the ipod hasn't been meanignfully upgraded since '07, a variable century in MP3 player world. It's been left behind for fancy dandy smartphones which, while useful to teenage girls and busy yuppies, can't do the FLAC thing.

I'm not trying to degrade teenage girls or busy yuppies. They probably do many more important things than me and can't be worried about the stuff I'm worried about. But windows works great for both of us, I think, and Apple's products don't.

Though they do look good. In a wierd, creepily immaculate postmodern way.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jun 9, 2011 1:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

Having lived with one foot in both worlds since the 80s, I can see your points, but...

as for "wont ever like the idea that innovation is handed down to us from one source" isn't that exactly what we lived with under the Bill Gates-Microsoft Dominion? Thank God, they've finally gotten to a stable product - but it still has so many holes that new ways to attack it are invented all the time. And as far as I know, it still relies on an antiquated virtual RAM paging system, accessing only about 4 GB of real RAM at a time ! Mind you, my machine at work is not configured for a consumer - it's got 24 GB of RAM - but Macs left Windows in the dust about 10 years ago in this regard.

Also - I've used tons of freeware - can't live without it - and I'll have to try out Foobar someday.

Soundcards - maybe not the variety you're accustomed to, but typically we run very high end video cards, which can port 7 channel surround onboard.

But, I'll grant you that Apple is out to make hay - when you're the David vs. the Microsoft Monolith, you win by out-innovating them, and then playing the same game they did. The other thing I detect in your post - and I agree with - you can detect a whiff of elitism in the marketing: you can have all this techno wonder, if you can afford it. And I agree, computers are just commodities, very little to distinguish the brands these days beyond the Mac borg-like box and some fancy marketing.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jun 8, 2011 8:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

I-MAC

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Poster: shakeitupnow Date: Jun 9, 2011 8:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

mac.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 9, 2011 9:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

been a mac user since 1987. At the time the programs available for graphing and graphics were far superior to what was available in the PC world. All the other stuff was a bonus. I doubt i would have purchased the iphone if i wasn't already using macs.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 9, 2011 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

Both. Our household has, let's see, 1 Mac, 3 PCs, 1 PC Netbook. My shows are split between Mac and PC. I'm a creature of habit and like Windows, but we've also got Windows for Mac, which suddenly makes it a lot more appealing ...

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Poster: boltman Date: Jun 9, 2011 5:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Apple Spaceship!

Mac man

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